New polling data from the Carsey Institute at the University of New Hampshire shows:

“A growing left-right split over the validity of scientific information. This “science gap” is apparent most of all on the issue of climate change, but the problem is much broader, encompassing topics ranging from evolution to the safety and effectiveness of condoms in preventing sexually transmitted diseases.

This is pretty striking: The first three political groups—Democrats, independents, and non-tea party Republicans—all trust scientists on the environment. But then you come to tea party members, and suddenly, distrust in scientists soars. The numbers are stark: 60 percent of traditional Republicans trust scientists on the environment, versus only 28 percent of tea partiers.

Is anyone surprised? Go here for the rest of the article.

  1. 02casper says:

    This is the one area no one can have a conversation with a TEA partier. It’s like arguing with someone who is convince that the earth is flat or the Sun revolves around the Earth. There is nothing you can do or say that will change their minds. I have a picture in my head of neo standing in his house as the waves wash over it shouting “It’s not real. It’s not real.”

    • When I think of the Tea Party, I think of Spook–a proud member of his local chapter. Do you suppose back in the sixties, these same guys were quoting tobacco company scientists claiming that cigarettes posed no health risk?

  2. 02casper says:

    Spook has an interesting post on B4V about “how you want to be remembered”. Of course, he is using it to attack Obama. That said, it might be something that would be worth while looking at on a personal basis. What do you think?

    • It’s an interesting question, but I think a sitting president should be concerned with making the best decisions he can with the issues at hand, as opposed to worrying about how he will be remembered.

      • rustybrown2012 says:

        Watson, I completely agree with you. Spook is trying his best but ultimately his post is just more of the same Obama bashing we’ve grown used to. Let’s face it, Republican rule under the Bush administration is going down as an unmitigated failure in the history books. There’s simply no denying it: Iraq was folly, there were no WMD’s, and Bush left this country on the verge of a great depression. Those are historical facts. Facts owned by Republicans. Suck it.

        It’s easy to understand why the morons who proudly and boldly posted under the banner “Bush For Victory!” are now declaring the end of times–they are completely embarrassed and proven wrong by history. They’re under the gun. I can understand why they’re so defensive. Maybe they should try thinking. Maybe the flag wavers should dig deeper into their nature, and try being more patriotic.

      • rustybrown2012 says:

        Cluster says:
        Not only was Iraq supported by Democrats at the time, the country was on the verge of becoming a beacon of light in the ME until the Democrats found that withdrawing their support and calling it a failure could win them an election.

        “Beacon of light”! That’s rich! Yeah, you guys turned Iraq into a regular Garden of Eden – and it only took tens of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars! Quite a nice fantasy you’ve got going on; are there cuddly puppies as well? Keep sticking to the Republican line: “We know our policies have been monstrous failures up to this point, but just let us continue with them a little bit longer and everything will turn out fine!” Nobody’s buying it. And BTW, the withdrawal was in accordance to a bilateral mandate agreed to and signed by President Bush.

        And although many Democrats were pressured into supporting the war, the only opposition to it came from the Democrats, and the most liberal ones at that. Get that? The only opposition to the Iraq war came from liberal Democrats like myself. We were right. As the GOP, in it’s entirety, was figuring out new ways to lie the American people into their bloody fiasco, it was only people like me who were the voices of reason. We never would have invaded Iraq if Gore was President. The Iraq war was the GOP’s war through and through. You broke it, you own it. Everybody knows this to be true.

        Regarding the great recession, there was plenty of blame to go around, but the fact remains it happened on Bush’s watch. You know, the whole ‘buck stops here’ thing. Clinton left this country far better off than when he took office. Obama’s on track to do the same. Your guy Bush, not so much. He is correctly regarded as one of the absolute worst Presidents in history. And he’s a shitty painter, too.

  3. rustybrown2012 says:

    Educate your kids. Let’s hope the Idiocracy doesn’t win the day.

  4. meursault1942 says:

    I drove some of our little conservative friends to conniption fits by accurately pointing out that they are mired in fear, anger, and paranoia. Their reaction was so hysterical, in fact, that I didn’t even get around to mentioning the underlying thing that makes that fear, anger, and paranoia possible: Ignorance. I’ve put the challenge out several times to find a conservative position that isn’t based on a lie. So far, nobody’s been able to do so, and conservatives’ carefully cultivated ignorance is the reason.

    Conservatives have gone fully postmodern: They now insist that believing something makes it a fact, which therefore means that their ignorance is just as good as actual knowledge. Don’t like reality (and conservatives sure don’t)? Just make up one that’s more to your liking, then proclaim that it is absolute truth. Knowledge, truth, facts–these are all the enemy to conservatives now. It’s why they have to isolate themselves from the real world. It’s why they stay inside their protective bubble and only work within their closed information loop. If they start to accept reality, a lot of that anger, fear, and paranoia would melt away. But reality is scary, and it does a lousy job conforming to wingnut talking points, so they’re stuck..

    • mitchethekid says:

      The most dangerous threat to this country is conservative extremism. This extremism is being cultivated and exploited by billionaire’s like the Koch Bros who then broadcast this phony house of mirrors nightmare through empty mouth pieces like Ted Cruz. People like Cruz mix in ole’ timey religion and use a rhetorical trick to present things as a foregone conclusion where in it leaves his audience believing that Cruz has included them in some sort of secret knowledge that only the truly enlightened know about. This demographic is delusional. They think they are going to live forever. It’s the age of the millennials and I know from personal experience that what these younger people think; and how they think, is as far removed form these Tea Asses as is a curved flat screen TV is from a sand drawing. We are living during a time where the analog is merging with the digital. There is no space in cyberspace and the amount of information (which is binary) that is being transmitted every single second might very well be explained in terms of how many molecules there are in the universe. And these Tea Asses just don’t get it. But at this point who cares.

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