Our Last POW Returns

Posted: June 3, 2014 by Marner in Current Events, Politics
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By now everyone has heard that SGT Bowe Bergdahl has been released from captivity and is now back in the hands of the US military. We traded five Taliban prisoners for his release. Rather than celebrating the fact that the sole prisoner of war from Afghanistan has returned safely, some have let their hate of everything Obama drive them to despicable depths.

Rep. McKeon from California and Sen. Inhofe from Oklahoma were first out of the gate when they chose not to welcome SGT Bergdahl home, but to accuse Obama of acting lawlessly by not notifying Congress 30 days prior to any release of Guantanamo detainees. They have been followed by more Republican deep thinkers like Sen. Cruz, Sarah Palin, and Dick Cheney. The worst is John McCain, himself a prisoner of war, saying he would not have made the deal and just left Bergdahl behind.

The bottom line that these chicken hawks don’t understand is you don’t leave a soldier behind. We are packing up and getting out of Afghanistan and Obama took the necessary steps to make sure there was not one person unaccounted for when the last plane leaves. Why Bergdahl left his post or what his distraught father may have tweeted just doesn’t matter. We get our soldiers back, then we deal with whatever they may have done. We don’t just say, “Fuck it, let him rot.” Most Americans understand this, but there are some out there who hate Obama with such passion that they would rather see an American POW die in captivity than see Obama achieve anything positive and the opportunistic grifters are more than happy to milk that sentiment for votes and book sales. Despicable.

I think if Rep. McKeon feels so strongly about this, he should immediately begin impeachment hearings. Put the President of the United States on public trial for bringing back the only US POW before leaving Afghanistan. Please, please do this so that we can get fewer assholes like you in Congress.

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  1. 02casper says:

    It’s pretty obvious at this point that the right will go nuts over anything that Obama does. Getting everyone out of this war is the best thing we can do at this time.

  2. meursault1942 says:

    And I’m sure you’ll be shocked–SHOCKED!–to learn that a bunch of GOP lackeys are behind the (mostly fraudulent) anti-Bergdahl show.

    I really wish conservatives would rein in their horrific derangement. It’s not doing anybody any good.

    • mitchethekid says:

      At the end of every war the two sides have made peace with each other, put and end to hostilities. This is no different. Prisoners are exchanged and the promise the military makes is no one is left behind. The consensus among sane military and diplomatic leaders is that this could e the beginning of a peace settlement between the Taliban and the government of Afghanistan.
      John McCain was forced to renounce the US to. The worst thing he has ever done was to let Palin out of her cage in the insane asylum. This woman has an obsession with Obama, multiple personality disorders, is mentally unstable and so full of seething hate, resentment and viciousness that I’m surprised she hasn’t ad a psychotic break. This woman is a black hole of negativity and the worst the universe has to offer and seeks her out like lightening to a lightening rod. She is human filth. Her and her whole fucking white trash griffting family.

  3. meursault1942 says:

    Incidentally, watson, I decided to check in on the B4V loony bin and saw that you got Spook to uncork a real doozy. He says he can’t “wrap his head around the paranoia” that you think he wants to shoot and kill his fellow Americans…then he proceeds to insist that said shooting war is right around the corner (just like it has been for the entirety of Obama’s presidency, according to Spook) and it’s gonna happen any day now (probably because of those damn lazy black people) and when it does happen, your only two choices will be to either get shot or have something worse than getting shot happen to you.

    Amazing. He lives in a dark, dystopian fantasy of civil war, has been longing for the shooting to start for years, but he’s not the paranoid one, oh no, not at all. You’re paranoid for thinking he wants to shoot people just because of his repeated insistence that he’s ready to start shooting people.

    That poor guy’s already-tenuous grip on reality is slipping more each day. I wonder if it’s some sort of degenerative brain disorder or if it’s solely due to his isolation in the wingnut bubble and acrimonious split from reality. Because if it’s the former, then that’s just unfortunate. People wasting away like that is a real tragedy. But if it’s the latter…well, then I don’t feel at all bad for pointing and laughing at the crazy person.

    • mitchethekid says:

      Read Jim at Stonekettle Station. He, like Marner is ex military and would snap Retired in two.

    • canadianobserver11 says:

      They sure are fast in deleting comments that point to their hypocrisy. Left two comments that have since disappeared:-

      canadianobserver11
      June 4, 2014 at 6:26 am

      “And Amazona, we’re still waiting for your explanation about the “nasty little bigot” who used the word “redneck.” Hint: The only who used that word here was Cluster. Don’t dodge like you did last time”..watsonthethird.

      ———————————————————————————
      You must know by now, Watson, that Amazona would rather walk off a short pier than admit to a ‘lefty’ that she actually made a mistake. Her psychosis is too far advanced for that.

      Cluster
      June 4, 2014 at 8:31 am

      Watson is so vile and disparaging on so many occasions that it is natural to assume he was there as well. But as I said, a squishy progressive from CA really doesn’t know what that word means.

      canadianobserver11
      June 4, 2014 at 8:41 am

      Amazona apparently felt the word was so abhorrent, Cluster, that she called the person whom she thought had written it, “a nasty little bigot”. Do you think Amazona doesn’t know what that word means as well?

      • mitchethekid says:

        Speaking of Jim at Stonekettle staion, here’s another example of his brilliant observations. This guy cuts to bleed them out. And by the way, fuck you tired.
        http://www.stonekettle.com/

      • “Oh, I get it. I understand that frightened people become more and more irrational, especially when they are allowed, encouraged, to feed incestuously on each other’s fear.”

        From the Stonekettle article.

      • mitchethekid says:

        Isn’t the article great!! Cluster is attacking the “progressives” over this to me privately. He’s trying to defend the Switboating of Berghdal. Thats right, convict before the evidence is presented. That’s the conservative way! The same people who are spitting on Berghdal are the same ones who were spit on when they returned from Viet Nam as baby killers.

    • rustybrown2012 says:

      That poor guy’s already-tenuous grip on reality is slipping more each day. I wonder if it’s some sort of degenerative brain disorder or if it’s solely due to his isolation in the wingnut bubble and acrimonious split from reality.

      Could be both but I tend to think the later because I see similar delusions are increasingly apparent in Cluster, Ama, Mark – all of them. Look, that crowd has never been a great example of intelligence, wisdom, honesty or thoughtfulness, but the bfv blog has slowly taken on a more corrosive, desperate, batshit quality over the last couple of years. Analogous to the bubble concept, I like to think of it as the ‘head up their own ass’ syndrome. They used to just pick some bullshit right wing talking point and bat it around like big straw man piñata. They would do this like gleeful child bullies, happily insulting, berating, or deleting any sane voice that tried to explain how the world really works. But now it’s just 100% bitching. And bitching of the most unhinged nature. It’s kind of like they’ve entirely dispensed with the idea of laying out a positive, right wing vision (with the notable exception of demanding a return to THEIR PERSONAL INTERPRETATION OF THE CONSTITUTION) and gone straight for the vitriol.

      I don’t know if any of you have read my recent pasting of Cluster over at his blog, but it’s revealing. I’ve never thought much of Cluster, but like the rest of them, I think he’s gotten much worse in recent times. Our exchange is an amazing example of just how impossible it is to have a dialog with someone who’s completely immune to logic and facts, and lacks the fundamental integrity and intelligence to either mount an argument to the contrary or admit they were wrong. For example, in response to Cluster’s disbelief in the scientific link between CO2 and warmer temperatures I presented a study that showed that in a recent period of time, out of ALL of the peer reviewed scientific papers published on the subject, over 9000 scientists agreed with the correlation while only 1 disagreed. That’s right, a scientific consensus of over 9000 – 1. This was unacceptable evidence for Cluster, even though he provided no evidence to the contrary.

      There was also our disagreement about the definition of what an atheist is. Cluster has a ridged, outdated conception of what it means to be an atheist and I politely corrected him of the contemporary meaning of the term. I patiently explained that my interpretation of what it means to be an atheist is not only informed by my personal experience of being an atheist but also by the vast majorities of other modern atheists and virtually all contemporary thought and writing on the subject by the world’s leading authorities and philosophers. Not good enough. Again, if it disagrees with his simplistic worldview, no amount of evidence is sufficient for Cluster.

      I put it to you that no matter how substantial, factual and effective your argument is, you can not reach the individual who’s head is firmly up their own ass, and likes it that way.

      • mitchethekid says:

        Head up your own ass syndrome. xD That’s great!

        gr

      • They are truly delusional. They seem fairly normal in the rest of their lives, so what is it that makes them so blindingly delusional when it comes to President Obama?

        Is it just the mere fact that we elected a Democratic president two terms in a row? I mean, they hated Clinton in much the same way, though their hatred of Obama is an order of magnitude worse.

        Is it just the fact that they feel like they’re losing something that was once theirs? That can be scary, and fear will motivate people to do things they wouldn’t do otherwise.

        Is it the fact that President Obama isn’t white?

        Is it all of the above?

        I understand policy differences, but the hatred of Obama, the refusal to work with him or compromise in any way, the turning of backs on things they once supported just because President Obama does… it’s irrational.

      • mitchethekid says:

        He just looks Black. He’s a Millato. (sp) In Bullworth Warren Beaty said “We’ll just keep fucking each other until we’re all brown.” Maybe he was onto something.

      • mitchethekid says:

        This is an example of the delusional lunacy that comes from the right.Lunacy they take on face value as the truth. It’s like walking into an ambush by Silly String. Harmless but maddening none the less.

        http://crooksandliars.com/2014/06/drudge-reports-hillary-clinton-walker-gate

      • rustybrown2012 says:

        So sad. I knew Obama was going to kill America, and I voted for him anyway.

      • Dammit, Rusty. You must take personal responsible for the downfall of America.

      • rustybrown2012 says:

        Watson,
        It’s a heavy burden, but I come from the city of big shoulders, so I’ll be all right. BTW, very good point you made at bfv about how the right has a perpetual, ‘undying flame’ hard on for the alleged accomplishments of Reagan, yet cry “ancient history!” whenever the relatively recent fuck-ups of the Bush administration are brought up. Very observant. Yet another example of the screaming hypocrisy of these clowns.

      • Of course, I forgot to mention that the also bring up Jimmy Carter every chance they get.

        Stay strong, there, Rusty. The weight of the former America is upon your shoulders.

      • rustybrown2012 says:

        I’ll try Watson. But I’m mighty skeerd and quaking in mah boots over the day of recompense, when the righteous ‘merican constitutionalist patriots call me to task for my grave sin of voting – just like Jefferson envisioned! Do ya think they’ll hang me? Or just leave me to go about mah days beggin’ for forgiveness with a scarlet “O” branded to my forehead?

      • 02casper says:

        “watsonthethird says:
        June 4, 2014 at 1:39 pm

        They are truly delusional. They seem fairly normal in the rest of their lives, so what is it that makes them so blindingly delusional when it comes to President Obama?

        Is it just the mere fact that we elected a Democratic president two terms in a row? I mean, they hated Clinton in much the same way, though their hatred of Obama is an order of magnitude worse.

        Is it just the fact that they feel like they’re losing something that was once theirs? That can be scary, and fear will motivate people to do things they wouldn’t do otherwise.

        Is it the fact that President Obama isn’t white?

        Is it all of the above?”

        I’ve been thinking about that of late. I would go with the all of the above, but I would also add one other thing.

        Bush.

        IMO George W. Bush was the worst president in my lifetime. By the end of his term it was obvious even to his supporters how bad he was. B4B had to become B4V because no one wanted to be associated with the Bush name by the time he left. It also left his supporters looking like fools. The only way they can overcome their shame is by convincing everyone that Obama is as bad or worse. The TEA party came about because the Republican brand was so damaged by Bush that conservatives had to pretend they were part of something else.

      • As I said in that B4V thread, we should forever remember George W. Bush as the “hapless president.” According to his supporters, he didn’t actually do anything to affect the course of America; it was all done to him. He was just a helpless bystander.

      • meursault1942 says:

        “IMO George W. Bush was the worst president in my lifetime. By the end of his term it was obvious even to his supporters how bad he was. B4B had to become B4V because no one wanted to be associated with the Bush name by the time he left. It also left his supporters looking like fools. The only way they can overcome their shame is by convincing everyone that Obama is as bad or worse. The TEA party came about because the Republican brand was so damaged by Bush that conservatives had to pretend they were part of something else.”

        Excellent point. Bush was a calamitous failure of a president, and now the ex-Bushies are having to pretend that they didn’t really support him that much (plus, as watson points out, everything about 2000-2008 must be spoken of in the passive voice: nobody did anything, stuff just, you know, happened). Hell, Mark Noonan spent 8 years doing all but fellating Bush, and now he’s stuck cobbling together a talking points compendium about how Obama is the “worst.” It’s just sheer defensiveness and embarrassment.

      • mitchethekid says:

        Right on brother!! Preach it, preach it!

  4. Marner says:

    So far, unindicted war criminal and disgraced former Army officer Allen West is doing his best to be the biggest asshole. Bring it on, West. I can’t wait to see the opening arguments in the impeachment trial.

    You can also go here to see the Republicans who previously wanted Obama to expend every effort to get Bergdahl released. The two-faced shitbag McCain was even willing to swap prisoners until it actually happened. Asshat.

  5. mitchethekid says:

    Not to be redundant, but I can’t emphasize enough how strongly I recommend reading Jim of Stonekettle Station. Talk about one righteously pissed off motherfucker!

    • mitchethekid says:

      The more I read what he wrote the more angry I get.

      What the hell have we been fighting for?

      What were all those lives traded for?

      If we can’t bring one American home alive.

      Why do we have the mightiest military in the world? In the history of the world, if we have to live in fear of what the goddamned terrorists think?

      If we have to live in terror all of the time.

      If we can’t even go to the goddamned grocery store without a gun?

      Here’s the really disturbing question:

      What does Ted Cruz’s statement tell the US Military?

      What does it tell the terrorists? Who cares. The real question is what does it tell America?

      That under a Tea Party administration if you’re captured by terrorists, well fuck you, Soldier. We don’t negotiate with terrorists. Our vaunted principles, our inflexible ideology, our unbending politics and our sound-bite simple-minded doctrine is worth more than your life. We don’t negotiate with terrorists (even though we really do, don’t we? Pretty much all of the time). Besides, you’re probably a traitor anyway.

  6. Meanwhile, Bergdahl’s hometown has been forced to cancel a planned homecoming celebration.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2014/06/04/welcome-home-bowe-event-called-off/9976301/

  7. 02casper says:

    BTW, I hope Republicans try to impeach Obama over bringing Bergdahl home. If they do, we will keep the Senate and have a very good chance of picking up the house.

  8. rustybrown2012 says:

    What Republican war on women?

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/06/05/hb_351_in_ohio_john_becker_s_bill_would_ban_insurance_coverage_of_abortion.html

    “Will Ohio women soon see their insurance coverage of IUDs stripped away? Hearings began this week for HB 351, a bill banning health care plans in the state from covering abortion, with the definition of “abortion” expanded well beyond the actual medical definition (a procedure “to end an established pregnancy”) to one that “includes drugs or devices used to prevent the implantation of a fertilized ovum.”…

    …”Rep. John Becker (R) addressed his lack of knowledge about science thusly: “This is just a personal view. I’m not a medical doctor.”

    This is what he said regarding a bill he sponsored that will interfere with women’s medical decisions. At least he’s honest! Indeed, the attacks on legal abortion and insurance coverage for both abortion and contraception begin with the premise that a woman’s medical care should be determined not by what she and her doctor decide based on the evidence, but on the “personal view” of some conservative politician who is usually pushing a religious agenda. Becker’s candor is refreshing.”

  9. Hilariously, the B4V moderator removed my comments about The Hapless One, aka George W. Bush, without comment. I thought that might happen.

    Yes, it was a failure of historic proportions. But to hear you all tell it, George W. Bush was just an ineffective bystander in his own administration. Nothing that happened during his eight years in office had anything to do with his policies because he wasn’t able to actually implement any of them. He tried raising concerns about what everybody else was doing to America–and by extension, to him–but nobody would pay any attention. The fact that the war in Iraq lasted longer than he expected? It was the fault of the Iraqis. The fact both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were still being waged when he left office? Obama’s fault! The fact that we sent Americans into war based on faulty intelligence? Congress’ fault. The fact that the economy collapsed beneath his feet? Stupid Americans taking out bad loans. (Say, you work in this sector. Were you advising people not to buy houses? Just wondering.) The fact that President Obama was left to pick up the pieces? Obama’s fault, obviously. Honestly, Cluster, your line of reasoning is what I’d expect from a 7-year old denying he ate all the cookies in the cookie jar.

    As for bringing up presidents, to you it’s okay to bring up Reagan. And Clinton. And Carter, of course! But George W. Bush? Absolutely not. No one has any right to bring him up because, after all, he didn’t actually do anything–everything was done to him–so why bring him up at all?

    We should forever remember George W. Bush as The Hapless One.

    Of course, right on cue, Spook brings up Carter. lol

    • 02casper says:

      “Hilariously, the B4V moderator removed my comments about The Hapless One, aka George W. Bush, without comment. I thought that might happen.”

      Of course they did. They are ashamed of Bush. They can’t really defend him so their only option is to attack Obama and any other democrat.

  10. 02casper says:

    Just curious. Has Tired ever written anything that wasn’t nasty? I can’t remember him ever posting something that wasn’t an attack on someone.

    • meursault1942 says:

      He’s always written like a surly, ignorant adolescent. I assume that’s just what he is.

      • 02casper says:

        “He’s always written like a surly, ignorant adolescent. I assume that’s just what he is.”

        Reminds me of my son in 8th grade. Good news is he grew out of it.

    • mitchethekid says:

      He’s an impotent pipsqueak that even a massive dose of Tadalafil won’t stiffen.

  11. 02casper says:

    I don’t care for most of what David Brooks writes, but this is spot on.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/06/opinion/brooks-president-obama-was-right.html?ref=opinion&_r=0

  12. rustybrown2012 says:

    Mark has a doozy of a rambling new post about…well, I’m not really sure. Something to do with war. How good it used to be back in the day, and how it sucks now. It’s long, vague, and repetitive. It’s also filled with overly simplistic observations, false comparisons, and comic book morality. Best I can tell, he’s waxing nostalgic for the good old days where Americans had the balls to lose 4,000 men a day in combat. Apparently, using soldiers as cannon fodder is preferable to combat strategies aimed at reducing casualties. Now there’s a GOP slogan I can get behind: “Vote Republican, let’s slaughter Americans like we used to!”

    http://blogsforvictory.com/2014/06/06/d-day-bergdahl-and-the-end-of-american-warfare/

    • It _is_ pretty incredible. Apparently, the good old days were when the world’s super powers fought each other to total victory or total defeat. Nowadays we’re just a bunch of softies.

      • rustybrown2012 says:

        You know, I think a question for Mark to ponder is: What the fuck does WWII have to do with our current engagement in Afghanistan? The only similarity I can see is that they’re both armed conflicts. Besides that you have enormous differences, and it’s obvious that what worked for a global battle against a specific, uniformed enemy 70 years ago has practically no parallels with the type of ideological, targeted war we’re waged in today. For Mark to not acknowledge these glaring differences in his diatribe shows just how myopic and stupid he is. Which beachhead is he suggesting be conquered in Afghanistan?

      • meursault1942 says:

        Well, Mark’s also polishing up the same dolchstosslegende that conservatives used post-Vietnam: “We were all set to win militarily, but those goddamn wimps in Washington wouldn’t let us win!”

    • rustybrown2012 says:

      And not for nothing, but guess who we have to thank for the type of unruly, unfocussed conflict in Afghanistan we’re now engaged in? Who actually invaded and put our occupation on the back burner to simmer while he lied this country into an illegal and disastrous invasion of Iraq? Oh yeah, Bush. As in Blogs for Bush. And who is putting an end to the shitstorm in Iraq and Afghanistan he inherited as President? Obama. You’re welcome, neocon fucktards.

      • Well see, Rusty, those wars weren’t The Hapless One’s fault. It was the Iraqis’ fault they got invaded. They should have come clean and let the inspectors inspect anything they want. Failing that, The Hapless One had no choice. The Hapless One never had a choice about anything.

      • rustybrown2012 says:

        You would have a point there Watson, if it wasn’t The Hapless One’s administration that kicked out the inspectors before they could complete their work. Oh, but I forgot, The Hapless One had nothing to do with that. The Hapless One would have consented to the inspectors doing their jobs thoroughly if only……….

      • No one would claim that The Hapless One kicked them out because that could be construed as The Hapless One being responsible for events that happened on his watch. And we can’t have that, can we.

      • rustybrown2012 says:

        Certainly not! The Hapless One was always had His eye on the ball:

  13. meursault1942 says:

    As for Bergdahl and the conservative hypocrisy regarding him, I think Will Bunch pretty much nails it:

    The hypocrisy manages to be both stunning yet also banal, even predictable. It’s not rocket science. Sgt. Bergdahl was never a living, breathing human to these people — just what the director Alfred Hitchcock would have called a “MacGuffin,” an insignificant prop that exists to drive the real storyline, and that storyline is tearing down Obama as an un-American pretender to the White House. In 2013, Obama was a coward who didn’t understand our most basic principle of “no man left behind.” In 2014, Obama was a treasonous dictator who put the nation at risk to rescue an undeserving deserter who should be court-martialed, maybe executed. The two narratives are ridiculously, laughably contradictory except for one element: They both involve a president named Barack Hussein Obama.

  14. 02casper says:

    Turns out, Bob Bergdahl is a Republican, which just goes to show they will eat their own. I wonder if stays a Republican after the way he and his family have been treated.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/06/bergdahl-s-dad-drone-killed-captor-s-kid.html?utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=cheatsheet_afternoon&cid=newsletter%3Bemail%3Bcheatsheet_afternoon&utm_term=Cheat%20Sheet

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