Weekly B4V Sucks Thread

Posted: June 6, 2014 by Marner in Open Thread

We are going to try something new here. It seems that people tend to go wildly off topic in the threads going off on something said over at B4V. In an attempt to try and keep the other threads clean, I present to you your one-stop-shop for everything B4V related. Feel free to vent to your heart’s content, but please keep it here rather than putting it in the other threads. I’ll provide you a brand spanking new thread every Friday.


  1. 02casper says:

    Here is a link to an article written by a real Historian. Notice the difference.


    • Well, to be fair to Mark, we shouldn’t expect him to possess the perspective and writing skills of the author of the Wall Street Journal article. The problem, however, is that Mark thinks he does possess those qualities.

      • meursault1942 says:

        He thinks he possess encyclopedic historical knowledge, too. The problem is once he starts talking, it becomes quite clear that his knowledge is a mile wide and much less than an inch deep, and a lot of it isn’t really “knowledge,” but rather is the official party line of the Catholic Church.

      • mitchethekid says:

        If he admitted that the church’s position on issues is the complete opposite of his, his face would melt.

      • rustybrown2012 says:

        Well, I don’t know about completely different, but there are many contradictions between Mark and the Church. Thing is though, Catholics have no problem living with many contradictions.

  2. rustybrown2012 says:

    Cluster laments the jackboot of progressives:

    Group think rules their world and if you stray from the orthodoxy, there are consequences.

    Yet apparently feels no sense of hypocrisy (I think that neural pathway is missing in his brain) for paling around with Spook, who recently mused:

    should things really go south during the remainder of Obama’s term, just how will people who were vocal about supporting him be treated by the rest of us? How does Watson believe he should be treated if things really fall apart because of Obama’s policies? Can people like Watson be assured that people like me will say, “you know what; I realize your heart is in the right place, and I forgive you.” Or will people who supported the fundamental transformation of this country be ostracized, maybe forced to wear a symbol, like the Jews in 1930′s Germany, identifying them as being responsible for the dire straits in which most people find themselves? I think there’s a good chance we’ll find out, and probably sooner rather than later. If we end up where I think we might, shooting may be too easy an out for enablers like Watson.

    …all of this for people who merely voted the wrong way! Talk about your orthodoxies and consequences! Cluster apparently found nothing troubling with that type of Kristallnacht speculation. He and Ama then went on to agree that Obama voters should be “scorned”. Cluster then bragged about pulling alongside cars displaying Obama stickers, rolling down his window and glaring at the occupants for the intended effect of making them uncomfortable.

    Ah, the warm embrace of conservatives for those that don’t vote the way they should!

    • Reading that back now, it’s amazing that he considers himself to be the reasonable one. And he wonders why the rest of us wonder about clowns preparing for armed conflict with their fellow Americans.

      • rustybrown2012 says:

        Yeah, no kidding. And notice he’s not only talking about about a fringe, rogue element of the right wing going full Nazi on liberals; he’s speculating about how we “should be treated by the rest of us “ and “people like me (Spook). He apparently thinks it’s a very real possibility that the tens of millions of Obama voters will find execution to be “the easy way out” in the near future. Well bring it on, old man. Spook should be careful about talking this way in mixed company; if he said this to my face he might find himself shitting out his own teeth the next day.

      • mitchethekid says:

        Tell him you are one of those open carry jack-off’s. Ask him to meet you at Home Dept. As Bill Maher said, “they are there to buy a toilet seat. Are they expecting an armed insurrection?”

      • rustybrown2012 says:

        Spook seems more like the open carry type to me. If I, on the other hand, ever had to defend myself from the likes of him, he wouldn’t see it coming.

      • meursault1942 says:

        “Reading that back now, it’s amazing that he considers himself to be the reasonable one.”

        Remember, if you notice his paranoia and intense desire to have a Civil War/race war/whatever the fuck (during which you will be lucky if you are merely shot, watson), then you are paranoid.

        And he’s just so bewildered that anybody would think he wants to murder his fellow Americans for “freedom” just because he has repeatedly spoken of how willing he is to murder his fellow Americans for “freedom.” Meanwhile, our latest deranged shooters sound exactly like him: He’s “a self-identified Patriot who liked dozens of militant movements on Facebook and railed against Islam, Obamacare, immigrants, the New World Order, and gun control” who was an ardent support of deadbeat moocher Cliven Bundy and even posted Spook’s bottom-line mantra “I will willingly die for liberty.”

        These are Spook’s people. This is Spook. Sadly, he’s too demented to understand.

      • rustybrown2012 says:

        These ‘self identified patriots’ like Spook, Mark, etc. are clearly overcompensating for small weenies and/or limp noodles. It’s the actions and rantings of the impotent.

  3. 02casper says:

    Took CSL 4 responses before she got nasty today.

  4. rustybrown2012 says:

    I’d like to address the conservative meme that the Republican ‘war on women’ is a trumped up issue. Rather than get into the many, many Republican politicians who express retrograde views on women’s issues and propose legislation that directly undermines women’s autonomy (I’d be delighted to provide volumes of examples of these in case anyone is interested) compared to the near absence of liberal politicians saying and doing such things, I’ll take one popular example, one that is often mentioned at bfv: that Mitt Romney was unfairly vilified for being a part of the GOP a war on women.

    There are probably other areas where Romney was a douche about women’s rights, but the one that stands out for me is contraception. Although better access to contraceptives is a win for everybody, they are particularly beneficial to the health and well being of women. As we all know, Obamacare mandates coverage for contraceptives, thus categorizing them as a part of basic preventative care as they should be. Romney firmly opposed the mandate, thus making it more difficult for women to get basic care.

    Further, Romney said repeatedly that he was committed to not only eliminating funding for Planned Parenthood, but eliminating allfederal family planning funds under the Public Health Service Act which have been available, and have probably helped reduce abortions, since the Nixon administration. The federal dollars that go to PP are used for cancer screenings, breast exams and other care to lower income women, none of it is used for abortion services.Yet apparently for Romney and other pro-life idiots, giving the impression your goal is to reduce abortions is much more important than actually reducing abortions.

    So there are just a couple of rock-solid reasons women justifiably ran away from Romney like he was a bleary Ben Roethlisberger in a 4 am nightclub. Unlike what the morons at bfv would have you believe, it was not that women thought he was going to directly “ban abortion”, or “ban contraceptives” (although given his and the GOP’s vocal animus toward these things it was certainly reasonable to conclude he would contribute to a climate that makes such bans possible). No straw men necessary, just his own odious positions.

    • mitchethekid says:

      Do you know what the number one thing is that drives these anti-abortion zealots? Sometimes to murder? Jesus. They truly believe that banning abortion increases the odds of Jesus being born. Again. Because then there is no guessing when all fetus’s are accounted for. I don’t know how they explain the other billions of people on the planet, but they sure try

      • mitchethekid says:

        Tell Noonan and the CSL to read this and then stick it up their asses.

      • rustybrown2012 says:

        They truly believe that banning abortion increases the odds of Jesus being born.

        If that’s true, then they’re more retarded than I thought. That would mean their God is so impotent and/or incompetent that He is powerless to secure safe passage for His son’s mission to save all mankind. They would have to necessarily believe that He is omniscient and omnipotent, yet powerless in the face of an evil abortionist (whom He created in the first place). Lawdy, religion is stupid!

      • mitchethekid says:

        Great googly moogly! Ding Ding! We have a winner. Come on down and collect your prize! 😉
        If you want to see one of these the bible is literally true christianists get all tongue tied, look at Bill Maher talking with Ralph Reed last Friday. I love Bill. He’s like a crude version of John Stewart. Have you noticed that there are very few conservative comedians? Why is that? Are they missing a gene or are they so miserable that they repel humor? I want to see Noonan et al defend the cop killing White Supremacists couple and the GOP being so desperate that they engaged in criminal behavior. Can you imagine if it was a dem who tried to bribe someone?

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