Speaker Boehner begs President Obama for just one more chance

Posted: November 15, 2014 by watsonthethird in Conservative Idiocy, Current Events, Immigration, Politics
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From the Weekly Standard:

House speaker John Boehner told President Obama at a White House meeting last Friday to give the House “one more chance” to pass a bill on immigration. Boehner referenced this conversation at the House Republican conference meeting Thursday morning, according to sources in the room.

Geez, he sounds like a child. Or maybe a bully who, when finally confronted, begs everyone to be cool because he didn’t mean to hurt anyone. Speaker Boehner’s been sitting on a bill for year that he refuses to put up for a vote, because he knows that it would pass if he did.

One House member in Thursday’s GOP conference meeting says Boehner said his message to the president was: “Just give us one more chance to pass an immigration bill.” Another member says those weren’t the House speaker’s exact words but confirmed Boehner mentioned requesting the president hold off on taking executive action.

Give them one more chance? Seriously, why would anyone believe them?

Now Republicans are talking about government shutdowns and impeachment. That’ll go over well. Republicans act like they’re powerless to do anything else–like actually taking up legislation, the thing they were voted into office to do. But nah, that’s antithetical to their true intentions, which is to reject anything President Obama might agree with because, you know, it would give him some legitimacy. And if there’s one thing Republicans have worked tireless at for six years, it’s to deny President Obama legitimacy.

On the other hand, you might almost think President Obama was baiting them into stupid behavior, but nah, conservatives know he’s just not very smart; certainly not smart enough to do that.

in the meantime, the thought of John Boehner begging (probably crying, too) does make me chuckle.

Mr. President, I promise I'll do better if you just give me one more chance. This time I mean it.

Mr. President, I promise I’ll do better if you just give me one more chance. This time I mean it.

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Comments
  1. meursault1942 says:

    Republicans are in a very difficult position now: They actually have to do something. This is going to prove extremely difficult for them for many reasons:

    1) Their base of support is built entirely on mindless obstructionism–an extremely cynical, yet effective, strategy for the minority party, but less useful for a majority party.

    2) They have no positive vision for the country. The best they can do is mouth some meaningless pabulum about “freedom” (which they don’t understand) or the Constitution (ditto), but when you get down to it, the only thing they have that approaches an agenda is taking health care coverage away from people, pursuing even greater voter suppression, and endless carrots for the rich/endless sticks for the poor.

    And in particular on the immigration front, they’re stuck at another Southern Strategy crossroads. Just as the original Southern Strategy was a political calculation that there were more votes to be had from racist/segregationist whites than from blacks and desegregationist whites, the GOP now must choose between its shrilly nativist base and the ever-expanding Hispanic population. Good luck with that, Goopers!

    In other news, here’s the Tweet of the Day in 36 parts: David Roberts explains postmodern conservatism in 36 tweets. The Bush years are when conservatism fully gave itself over to postmodernism–Stephen Colbert described it absolutely perfectly with the coining of “truthiness” and the correct observation that for conservatives, what matters is what feels true, while what’s actually true doesn’t matter in the slightest. But that dynamic has only gotten worse with time. As with all the myriad deleterious effects of conservatism, it’s fine when they just do it to themselves, but it’s problematic when they inflict it on the whole country.

    • And apparently, even the Constitution needs to be junked, according to conservative pundit Noonan.

      • meursault1942 says:

        I see tired is having a raging sad that Obama is allowed to appoint people to positions (if you can imagine!) and Noonan is proclaiming that feminists want to “ban heterosexual intercourse.” Not even winning an election can abate their derangement. How tragic.

      • Don’t you love the way tired makes up words and names? Is “obame” supposed to be sort of like “o-blame”? Who knows.

      • tiredoflibbs says:

        I normally wouldn’t respond to your insane and utter stupidity….

        wow watty clueless as usual.
        It figures. Leftists don’t have the imagination (vanity plates must drive you into a frantic epileptic fit – like obame when bowling) or the brain power to figure it out. Funny, many on the right have no trouble with the name that fits our dictator.
        OBAME = O-BA-ME = O-BAY-ME = OBEY ME
        That is what this ruler expects – unquestionable obedience which is what you clueless, mindless drones give day in and day out.

        Pathetic as usual there watty. Putz.

      • 02casper says:

        Also according to Noonan, all rural parts of states need to be broken off into their own states. Personally, I think New York City should be broken into 5 new states.

      • The more Noonan speaks, the more he shows just how out there he is. Mark, you really need to finish your magnum opus in order to spell it all out from top to bottom. Quit writing simpleminded anti-Obama drivel. The fact that your 150 Reasons book only has 1 and 5 star reviews says it all. You convince no one of anything with books like that. It makes me wonder why you bother.

      • 02casper says:

        Mark would have trouble passing my middle school class.

      • meursault1942 says:

        “Also according to Noonan, all rural parts of states need to be broken off into their own states. Personally, I think New York City should be broken into 5 new states.”

        That’s an interesting wingnut hobby horse for several reasons:

        1) It’s a logical extension of the increasingly prevalent wingnut belief that each person is a sovereign entity unto himself with little to no responsibility to society at large.

        2) It’s funny that “small government” conservatives are so enamored of massively expanding government; it makes sense, though, when you consider that the goal here is to induce yet more gridlock.

        3) Of course, Noonan only wants new red states. He’d never go for similarly breaking up major population centers (where the population-per-Representative ratio is much, much higher than it is for the rural areas he thinks are getting a raw deal.

        4) The demands of “equal representation” are pretty rich–they want affirmative action! When, of course, they already have equal representation (advantageous representation, even, if you take into account the wildly disparate population-per-Representative ratio); there just aren’t very many of them. They want land to be able to vote. Sorry, folks, only people get to do that (hence the ongoing right-wing attempts to cut down on the number of people who get to do that and the ongoing right-wing flirtations with poll taxes and the like).

      • meursault1942 says:

        See, this is why I feel kinda guilty for kicking tired around as much as I have: Everything about him screams “adolescent,” from his struggles with language skills to his inability to use basic logic to his sad little attempts at word games, and given that he’s functionally (if not literally) an adolescent, it’s not fair to pick on him as though he’s a full-fledged adult.

      • watty clueless as usual.
        It figures. Leftists don’t have the imagination (vanity plates must drive you into a frantic epileptic fit – like obame when bowling) or the brain power to figure it out. Funny, many on the right have no trouble with the name that fits our dictator.
        OBAME = O-BA-ME = O-BAY-ME = OBEY ME
        That is what this ruler expects – unquestionable obedience which is what you clueless, mindless drones give day in and day out.

        Pathetic as usual there watty. Putz.

        So is it pronounced “Oh-bay-me”? That’s reaching, tired. Although it does show the imagination of a 12-year old, so I’ll give you that.

        But “Putz”? That’s a new one for you! You learned a new word for the day. Good boy.

      • tiredoflibbs says:

        Wow, the intelligence on this blog is severely limited!
        What could anyone expect from pitiful topics such as: “Tweet of the Day”, “Why B4V Sucks” and any Paylin or Noonan bashing topic.

        There was nothing from this blog for months because you morons were “just not feeling it”. There is only so much bashing to do before you get bored. Well, you can’t exactly defend a failure like obame (using this just pisses you off!). I can see why your not feeling it. All the energy from 2008 is just gone. All because obame was big on promises and short on delivery. He told you what you wanted to hear. You fell for it and left you holding the disaster he has created (hmmmm reminds me of what happened in a litte European country in 1939).

        If only you morons could learn from history you would be happier people. Instead, you are just a bunch of miserable old fools, who have nothing better to do than project your misery on others.

        Be proud. You got your asses handed to you by free thinking Americans earlier this month. they smelled the shit obame and the looters have been shovelling. Now after months of silence you morons are back again repeating the same old bullshit.

        Ta ta.

      • tiredoflibbs: What passes for conservatism in America today.

  2. meursault1942 says:

    Also, here’s an interesting post from the GOPLifer blog running down the GOP’s ongoing predicament:

    Few things are as dangerous to a long term strategy as a short-term victory. Republicans this week scored the kind of win that sets one up for spectacular, catastrophic failure and no one is talking about it.

    What emerges from the numbers is the continuation of a trend that has been in place for almost two decades. Once again, Republicans are disappearing from the competitive landscape at the national level across the most heavily populated sections of the country while intensifying their hold on a declining electoral bloc of aging, white, rural voters. The 2014 election not only continued that doomed pattern, it doubled down on it.

    Lots of people have pointed out this cycle, wherein Republicans do great in midterms but no so great in presidential election years. But GOP Lifer has a very thorough rundown of not just this dynamic, but others related to it (including the notion, also pointed out by several commenters, that this election says that Americans want progressive policies and Republican politicians, as progressive policies won everywhere and hardline conservative policies mostly failed, even in deep red states). He notes that “the long flight of the Dixiecrats has concluded,” that “Republican support grew deeper in 2014, not broader,” and that “Republicans in 2014 were the most popular girl at a party no one attended,” among others.

    He also makes some solid predictions, among them:

    * “For all the talk about economic problems, for the past year the US economy has been running at ’90’s levels. Watch Republicans start touting a booming economy as the result of their 2014 ‘mandate.'” (Yeah, they’ll definitely do this–never mind the fact that pretty much everything Republicans have said about the economy over the past several decades has been egregiously wrong)

    * “McConnell’s conciliatory statements are encouraging, but he’s about to discover that he cannot persuade Republican Senators and Congressmen to cooperate on anything constructive. We’re about to get two years of intense, horrifying stupidity. If you thought Benghazi was a legitimate scandal that reveals Obama’s real plans for America then you’re an idiot, but these next two years will be a (briefly) happy period for you.” (This is rather like predicting that water will be wet.)

    And, of course, there’s the ongoing crazification of conservatives, which comes at the expense of doing anything useful:

    This is an age built for Republican solutions. The global economy is undergoing a massive, accelerating transformation that promises massive new wealth and staggering challenges. We need heads-up, intelligent adaptations to capitalize on those challenges. Republicans, with their traditional leadership on commercial issues should be at the leading edge of planning to capitalize on this emerging environment.

    What are we getting from Republicans? Climate denial, theocracy, thinly veiled racism, paranoia, and Benghazi hearings. Lots and lots of hearings on Benghazi.

    I’d disagree with the notion that Republicans have “leadership on commercial issues” (again, they’ve been wrong about pretty much everything), but in terms of the overall dynamic, yeah, he nailed it.

    • Interesting article. This is one reason why Republican-controlled states are considering changing their electoral vote from winner-take-all. I tend to be a little skeptical of these predictions that one party or the other will have an insurmountable edge for all time. While there will always be straight-line party voters, in a presidential race part of it comes down to the personalities of the candidates. In 2008, then-Senator Obama actually appealed to some Republicans. I know of Republicans who worked on his campaign. That could happen the other-way-around, too.

      • meursault1942 says:

        “I tend to be a little skeptical of these predictions that one party or the other will have an insurmountable edge for all time.”

        Oh yeah, any talk of “permanent majority” is pure foolishness. Hell, remember when Republicans were convinced that the Bush He Who Shall Not Be Named presidency was the beginning of the permanent Republican majority? Whoops! I note with bemusement that some wingnuts are already proclaiming the midterms as ushering in yet another permanent Republican majority. The pendulum always swings back to the other side; it may take slightly longer than usual occasionally, but it still happens.

  3. 02casper says:

    My daughter posted this on facebook today. thought it was worth sharing

    Being an atheist is okay.

    Being an atheist and shaming religions and spirituality as silly and not real is not okay.

    Being a Christian is okay.

    Being homophobic, misogynistic, racist, or otherwise hateful person in the name of Christianity is not okay.

    Being a reindeer is okay.

    Bullying and excluding another reindeer because he has a shiny red nose is not okay.

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