Not that McCarthy had distinguished himself as anything other than a partisan hack–and not a very good one–but good grief. The Republicans are in total disarray. They can’t even work amongst themselves, let alone members from another political party. And these are the people we want running the country? They can’t run themselves.

From The New York Times:

WASHINGTON — Representative Kevin McCarthy on Thursday abruptly took himself out of the race to succeed John A. Boehner as House speaker, apparently undone by the same forces that drove Mr. Boehner to resign.

Mr. McCarthy’s candidacy was damaged when he suggested in an interview on Fox News last week that the House committee investigating Benghazi had the political aim of damaging Hillary Rodham Clinton’s presidential campaign.

As shocked members left the room there was a sense of total disarray, with no clear path forward and no set date for a new vote. Representative Peter King, Republican of New York, said that in dropping out of race, Mr. McCarthy told the room, “I’m not the one to unify the party.”

A group of about 40 hard-line House conservatives announced Wednesday night that they would support Representative Daniel Webster of Florida, making it unclear whether Mr. McCarthy could assemble the 218 votes on the floor that he would need to be elected later this month.

Representative David Jolly, Republican of Florida, a member of the hard-line Freedom Caucus, which opposed Mr. McCarthy, was asked how the party could unify. “It’s going to take a hard family conversation,” he said.


Shortly after posting this, I heard one congressman explain that McCarthy is actually one of the few Republicans capable of working collaboratively. (He said Paul Ryan was another, but Ryan is smart enough to avoid the speakership as well.) So maybe McCarthy would have been the best choice of a sorry lot. But then he made his Benghazi gaffe. (Is a gaffe a gaffe when you merely state the truth?) Anyway, this is what happens when you elect a bunch of clowns who don’t know how to govern. Thanks, Tea Party!

  1. 02casper says:

    The GOP is falling apart.

  2. rustybrown2014 says:

    What did everybody think of the Dem debate? I thought it was pretty good. I heartily agree with what seems to be the takeaway opinion of normal (most of) America: What a refreshing display of ideas in contrast to the two juvenile horror shows that were the Republican debates. Christ it’s good to see a few adults take the stage. It dispels the queasiness from having too much exposure to the Republican lunatics and reminds me that Hillary is a lock to beat anyone of them.

    • I thought it was pretty good, too, although CNN was incredibly annoying, hyping that it would start at 8:30 and then running through 20 minutes of commercials and WWE-like introductions and even the national anthem.

      One thing that struck me was the discussion about guns. It made me wonder if the debate for sensible gun regulations can turn as quickly as same sex marriage did. I saw a glimmer of hope that it can. If politicians stridently talk about taking on the NRA and supporting sensible gun regulations–and get elected–we might be on to something.

      • rustybrown2014 says:

        The polls aren’t looking so hot for gun control. Dems would have to be very careful with this issue, it could mobilize the Republican base.

      • I’m not so sure about that. The polling that I see regarding background checks for all gun buyers is pretty one-sided. E.g., Quinnipiac pool in September showed it is supported by 93% of Americans. A CBS News poll in July showed it supported by 88% of Americans. The problem is that politicians have been afraid to unequivocally support it. That may be changing.

      • rustybrown2014 says:

        Yeah, the polling is kind of all over the map with this issue; a lot rides on how the question is framed. You’re right, single initiatives like the one you mentioned probably do poll pretty high and maybe that’s what Dems should stick with. But this is a very polarizing issue with a passionate base that’s susceptible to alarmist hyperbole (“gubmint comin’ for our guns”) so Dems have to be careful.

        Just out of curiosity, what gun control measures do you support Watson? I like the universal background check you mentioned and favor much stricter licensing standards for starters.

      • Just out of curiosity, what gun control measures do you support Watson.

        I’m strongly in favor of what I considered to be sensible gun regulations. That would include background checks on all transfers of guns, whether it be a sale or a transfer to another family member. I would support rigorous licensing procedures. I think the CDC should be treating gun violence as a public health issue and should be researching ways to mitigate it.

        I’ve long thought that the only way to combat the NRA would be for those of us who support sensible gun laws to put their money behind organizations like the Brady Campaign.

      • rustybrown2014 says:

        I’m with you on all those measures. It’s a shame we seem to be stuck with the gun culture we have. For example, I don’t think an Australian style buy back program would work here. But you have to be nuts to be against common sense safety laws.

      • The Brady Campaign has been having some success, mostly at the state level. Like I said, I think those of us who favor reasonable gun regulations need to contribute to groups like the Brady Campaign. There needs to be a counter to the NRA. To me, the NRA is simply a lobbying organization for the gun manufacturers. (No wonder they’re answer to everything is more guns; it’s good for business.)

        I think that if the types of mass shootings we have seen in churches, schools and theaters continue, then politically the tide may turn. Even though these shootings are a very small percentage of overall gun deaths in this country, they are the most sensational and politicians are going to have a harder and harder time defending doing nothing.

    • Oh, by the way, I found it amusing this morning to see Cluster talking to himself on B4V, referring to some character in his head named “Rusty.” At least, I assume it was in his head because a Rusty was no where to be found in the thread. Keep it up, Cluster!

      • rustybrown2014 says:

        Speaking of BFV, they just keep getting crazier, don’t they?

        Cluster, the blowhard pussy who talks tough but constantly seems to be shitting his pants, thinks it’s time the GOP “attack and destroy”.

        This makes Spook tumescent:
        “Have faith — that’s coming, and words can’t begin to describe how much I’m looking forward to it.” You get the feeling grandpa’s taking this a bit too literally.

        And Ama is in a class by herself. She embodies all of the negative characteristics of the bunch and adds some distinctly her own. She seems more like a toothless nutjob muttering on a street corner every day:

        On Obama and the people who support him (which is the majority of Americans, remember he was elected twice):
        “I had never been able to figure out why anyone would feel so good about Obama till I read this and realized that his appeal is to the second kind of vision—that he came across to many as one who COULD be, SHOULD be, put in charge because of his innate specialness. And by “put in charge” I mean really, truly, put in charge. Of the whole enchilada. These are the same people who now object to the efforts to “interfere” with his edicts by referring to Congress, and/or the SCOTUS, or even the voters. There are people who think Obama should be allowed to make any rule or law he wants to make, to overthrow or just ignore any rule or law he doesn’t agree with, and these are the types who would happily accept a true dictator with unlimited power and authority. That is what they want Obama to be.”

        On abortion:

        “The idea that a female should not feel shame for killing her child because she just didn’t feel like carrying it to term and finding a good home for it is ridiculous. That is one of the most shameful acts imaginable, and as far as I am concern disqualifies the female from even being considered a “woman”, which is a word I feel should represent strength and courage and dignity, not pathological selfishness and self-indulgence resulting in the butchering of her own child, a child most likely conceived because she was doing something that felt good.”

        I could of course go on, but you get the picture. These are not the musings of a stable mind.

      • It’s always fun to see Ama project what she thinks other people, as a group, think. And yes, I saw Spook’s charming statement. He’s the epitome of the old guy with a gun, sitting on his porch, itching to fire away.

      • Good to see that turdoflibs–I mean tiredoflibbs–chimed in on that thread, wherein everything–again–is “pathetic.” Tired, you need to expand your vocabulary.

    • Also, it’s amazing to me that Lincoln Chaffee or Jim Webb think they have any chance whatsoever. Chaffee’s response to voting for the Iraq War authorization (I think)–I just got there and my Dad died, so I didn’t know what I was doing!–was just lame. And then he did it again. And Webb… good grief…

      • rustybrown2014 says:

        “I just got there and my Dad died” – One of the most cringeworthy quotes in debate history. His next sentence should have been, “I quit, sorry to have wasted your time.”

  3. rustybrown2014 says:

    I have to admit I side with Republican critique of Hillary playing the gender card a tad too prominently. When your response to “How would your administration defer from Obamas” is basically you always sit down to pee, you might want to reel it back a bit.

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