A national disgrace

Posted: December 14, 2015 by watsonthethird in Current Events, Guns
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It boggles my mind that this nation could do nothing–nothing–about gun violence and mental illness in the wake of the Sandy Hooking shooting, which happened three years ago today and took the lives of six educators and 20 elementary school children. A national disgrace.

This Washington Post story, from six months after the shooting, is still powerful and needs to be shared.

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  1. casper3031 says:

    I have a lot of friends and gun owners, and I have yet to find anyone who would not support background checks for everyone. Yet the NRA owned politicians continue to keep it from happening.

  2. rustybrown2014 says:

    So, Black Lives Matter on campus. I’ll start: pampered, racist ignoramuses displaying a chilling propensity for censorship and fascism. At least we can all agree on that, right?

  3. Whose odds are better to be president, Ben Carson or the kid? I’m going with the kid since Carson’s odds are zero.

  4. Study shows that terrorism makes liberals think like wankers. You’re not alone, Rusty!

    http://pss.sagepub.com/content/early/2015/12/15/0956797615615584.abstract

  5. rustybrown2014 says:

    Oh no you didn’t!

    But yeah, imagine that. After repeated attacks against you by a certain group, a group that vows to continue to expand such attacks until everyone is killed including your children, one has the gall to be a tad more suspicious of that group. What bigoted temerity! That’s not prejudice Watson, that’s postjudice; the wankers are the ones who take no notice (got a mirror handy?).

    And “belligerence” in the title? Really? Talk about your biases. I would call the study “waking up”. Boosting Awareness.

    • Oh yes I did! (What did I do?)

      But yeah, certain liberals increase their prejudice against whole groups of people to wanker (i.e., conservative clown) levels. Next thing you know they’ll be demanding that Muslims be denied entry into this country, and that the ones who are already here be rounded up. There’s candidate for that!

      Trolling you is fun.

  6. rustybrown2014 says:

    I stated earlier that religions were not equal; some are demonstrably worse than others. Do you agree with that assessment? I’m sincerely curious about your answer.

    • Still taking a break, my friend. Besides, I am not religious myself and haven’t read the texts of every religion and so not qualified to pass that sort of judgement. But mainly I am not engaging in lengthy discussions at this time!

      • rustybrown2014 says:

        Fair enough. But you sell yourself short–one needn’t be an expert or a member to pass certain judgements. For instance, even us non-polititions can argue some governments are worse than others, no?

      • A tiny part of me thinks you’re trying to bait me.

      • Meanwhile, parents are outraged over a calligraphy lesson.

        STAUNTON, Virginia: A rural Virginia school district canceled classes and a holiday concert after being flooded with angry messages over a school calligraphy lesson that involved copying a Muslim statement of faith in Arabic.

        Tens of thousands of emails and Facebook posts have been received, some “threatening and very profane in nature,” said Augusta County Sheriff Randall D. Fisher. No specific threats have been made, though Fisher said he has dedicated an investigator to comb through the messages as a precaution.

        Augusta County school officials said in a statement that they canceled the events, including athletics and a fundraiser, as a cautionary measure after consulting law enforcement and the school board.

        Anger over the lesson has escalated since a teacher at Riverheads High School gave students an assignment that involved practicing calligraphy and writing a statement in Arabic – the Shahada, a profession of faith recited in Muslims’ daily prayers.

        The teacher’s lesson was drawn from instructional material that also includes Judeo-Christian assignments.

        At a forum Tuesday, one parent said the assignment promoted a false religious doctrine, while other parents expressed outrage. Some demanded the teacher be fired.

        The teacher, Cheryl LaPorte, declined comment. A Facebook group supporting LaPorte had more than 2,000 members on Friday. Many commenters defended LaPorte and the school district.

        School officials said the aim of the lesson was to illustrate the complexity of the written Arabic language, not to promote any religious system.

        “Although students will continue to learn about world religions as required by the state Board of Education and the Commonwealth’s Standards of Learning, a different, non-religious sample of Arabic calligraphy will be used in the future,” Doug Shifflett, Augusta County’s assistant superintendent for administration, said in a statement.

        Advocacy groups have said a spate of anti-Muslim incidents across the U.S. recently can be linked to the mass shooting in California and inflammatory rhetoric from politicians.

        In Virginia, authorities charged a man last month with leaving a fake bomb at a mosque, and a sheriff’s deputy had to halt a community meeting on a proposed mosque after a speaker was interrupted several times by residents who denounced Islam.

        http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/World/2015/Dec-18/328036-virginia-district-cancels-school-over-islam-lesson-backlash.ashx

        I think the world religion requirement is not long for Viriginia’s schools. Can’t have them learnin’ and stuff. That might be dangerous!

      • rustybrown2014 says:

        I tiny (sic) part of me thinks your(sic) trying to bait me.

        Who, me?

        I think the world religion requirement is not long for Viriginia’s schools.

        Good. With American high school students lagging behind academically I’d much rather precious resources be used to teach math, science, literature, etc.

        If one of my kids came home from high school informing me they were instructed to write. “There is no god but Allah. Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.” I’d be pissed too and likely inquire about it, though I wouldn’t be profane or alarmist. I’d be curious about what kind of balance is practiced when presenting world religions (there are accusations that the Bible was largely ignored). I also find it highly problematic that Christians, atheists and others not of the Islamic faith were unwittingly instructed to write “There is no god but Allah. Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.” Whatever happened to “See Spot run”? I’m sure that looks just as lovely in Arabic.

      • I tiny (sic) part of me thinks your(sic) trying to bait me.

        Nitpicker!

      • rustybrown2014 says:

        All a part of my baiting strategy.

      • All a part of my baiting strategy.

        You’re so transparent. “See spot run” would have been holy, I mean wholly appropriate for high school students.

      • rustybrown2014 says:

        Are you feeling OK Watson?

      • I feel great. How about you?

  7. rustybrown2014 says:

    How about “the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog”? Feel better?

    • Maybe for typing class.

      • rustybrown2014 says:

        Precisely. Wouldn’t that be better than, “There is no god but Allah. Muhammad is the messenger of Allah”? Quick brown fox is slightly less loaded, doncha think?

      • The reason it is good for typing class is that it contains every letter of the alphabet. “There is no god but Allah. Muhammad is the messenger of Allah” does not, so it would be inferior for typing class purposes.

      • rustybrown2014 says:

        Are you just in full trolling mode now, Watson, or do you want to engage in ideas?

      • Not in trolling mode. “Having fun” mode. Holiday season is a busy season for me. Little time to engage in “serious” conversation. But since you are pining away for serious conversation, here is a serious question for you. You know that the climate in the US regarding Muslims has become hostile and poisonous. (If you don’t, google it.) Given the relative important you place on Islam itself relative to Islamic radical terrorism, what do you think the US’s policy should be regarding Muslims immigrating into this country (refugee or otherwise) as well as Muslims who are already here, including those who are citizens of the US and those that were born here?

      • rustybrown2014 says:

        Holidays are busy for me too; glad you’re likewise in the fun mode. A glorious time! I’ll be traveling abroad soon so don’t take a sudden blackout personally. Regarding your question, I stand by what I said before: I think the 10,000 Syrian immigrants from Syria is reasonable, with attendant and scrutinized precautions. Muslims who were born here are obviously Americans and have full rights of citizenship. I’ve already stated this. Do you have any new ideas or nuances to discuss, or do you just prefer to troll?

      • It was a serious question, not a troll. I have no new ideas or nuances at this time, or at least not that I feel able to take the time to adequately express in this forum. I don’t even think I will be able to stay awake to the end of this basketball game. Happy holidays to you and enjoy your trip.

  8. rustybrown2014 says:

    Well thanks. Same to you. I Hope I answered your serious questions to your satisfaction. I think I’ve covered it. Anything else? I’m not leaving for a few days, pal…

  9. rustybrown2014 says:

    More barf-inducing shenanigans at our elite learning institutions. Note the DEMANDS from black students at the end. As if lowering admittance requirements for blacks is not enough, apparently we MUST relax their grading standards as well. Note the demand for mandatory black studies for everybody and the elimination of required “Western/Classical centered” courses, presumably the courses that teach the foundations of the civilization and learning institutions that they now enjoy.

    One must wonder why in light of all this strident self-segregation these severely oppressed students don’t fully commit and move to beloved Africa. Or at least start their own fucking school.

    https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2015/12/20/more-idiocy-in-the-college-wars/

  10. rustybrown2014 says:

    Uh, just bringing up a subject. I think it’s funny and tragic at the same time. Any other thoughts?

    • I think you are a bit preoccupied by black college students. That or stirring up the shit. No one can tell with you. “Move to beloved Africa”? “Start their own fucking school”? Get a grip, Rusty. I think you need this trip abroad.

      • rustybrown2014 says:

        I just follow the news. If it were Sicilian students outraged over pasta sauce, demanding mandatory courses for everybody on the Sicilian experience and the Sicilian diaspora, I would suggest they think about moving to beloved Sicily or starting a wonderful Sicilian school of their own. I think that’s entirely reasonable and I’m nothing if not consistent.

        I think you’re a tad preoccupied with conditioned apologetics. But you’re right, their demands are entirely sensible, dignified and in NO WAY infringe on other groups rights because, black. Nothing to see here and I should be ashamed for bringing it up.

  11. Well, it is hard for me to get worked up about students at Oberlin College complaining about their food and demanding that something be done about it. They _are_ college students after all.

    It is also hard for me to get worked up about the black students taking it a step further and making demands other than food. They are not demanding that “Western/Classical centered” courses be eliminated, but that they no longer by required. A class about the Sicilian experience is hardly equivalent to the (America) black experience for obvious reasons. And gasp! They want the jazz department to perhaps focus a bit more on black music–which is where jazz came from in the first place– rather than European classical music. Of course, they are not the first blacks to want to reclaim jazz for blacks. Read up on your jazz history, my friend. Ever hear of bebop?

    As one article put it, this is “an outlying story about a small number of students plucked by the tabloid most adept at trolling its readers from the stream of campus news.” If that floats you’re boat, well, okay.

    BTW, I know I am letting you down with my lack of participation recently. There is another blog where B4V refugees have gone. It is here: https://viewsfromtherightside.wordpress.com/. They might enjoy another voice to argue (or agree) with over there.

    • rustybrown2014 says:

      They are not demanding that “Western/Classical centered” courses be eliminated, but that they no longer by required.

      They’re calling for the removal of Western/Classical studies from a Western/Classical institution in a Western/Classical nation. If Oberlin insists on continuing to teach it’s proud Western/Classical history in context, it is demanded they must also include black equivalence. I take it you’ll be a vocal booster when other groups demand equal representation for Sicilian, Chinese, Mexican, Canadian, Puerto Rican, Polish, Cambodian, Hmong dwarves, ad infinitum until higher education in the West becomes nothing more than multicultural studies. Our kids won’t know much about Michelangelo, but hey, they may bring home a delightful scarf woven in the Tibetan tradition.

      One representative demand states:

      “For example, in the History department Western and US History are major requirements which places the history of these regions in a higher esteem than other regions of the world. Therefore, we DEMAND that students be required to take African Civilizations up to the 1800s”

      Oh, brother. Could it be that Western and US History are emphasized not only because we are, in fact, talking about the curriculum of an American University, but also because Western and US History were, oh, perhaps slightly more influential on world affairs (you know, recorded history) than pre-1800 Africa, hmmmm? And lets be honest with ourselves, Watson, let’s say you’re paying an arm and a leg to send your kid to college–do you really want Shakespeare marginalized to make room for pre-1800 African theater? Because that’s EXACTLY what the demand is. I’ll give you a moment to thoroughly visualize what this trade-off actually entails, please take the moment while being honest with yourself.

      A class about the Sicilian experience is hardly equivalent to the (America) black experience for obvious reasons.

      Who said it was? My point is why must either of these diasporas be mandatorily studied by all students?

      And gasp! They want the jazz department to perhaps focus a bit more on black music–which is where jazz came from in the first place– rather than European classical music.

      I have no need to read up on Jazz history, my friend, I actually know quite a bit about it, and my guess is that Jazz students are required to take certain Classical requirements because Jazz has many roots in Western Classical music. But why is it that Classical students are not required to take Jazz? Evil racism? Or the fact that Jazz has exactly zero influence on Classical music? Gasp! I’ll let you figure that one out, Satchmo. But, of course, this student demand, like most of them, is ultimately racist, for they conclude: “Jazz students should not be forced to take courses rooted in whiteness.” Good thing Coltrane didn’t take that view, he worked himself bloody studying obscure Western musical theory and I’ll hazard to say the world is better off for it.

      They’re also demanding even more quotas for Black students in the Jazz department, which is probably unconstitutional.

      Whatever article it was that referred to this as ““an outlying story about a small number of students plucked by the tabloid most adept at trolling its readers from the stream of campus news.” is way off base, unless you think that every major news outlet in the country is a “tabloid” (they’ve all reported on this phenomena) and that hundreds if not thousands of students from multiple Universities around the country are doing the protesting. But that quote does comfortably fit your go-to excuse from your apologetics grab-bag: rather than confront the issue you say “it’s a small number of people, and it’s really not that bad”. Lame. You should work on a new schtick.

      Finally Watson, another tactic plucked from your grab-bag, you ignore the most egregious parts of the controversy–the demand for lower grading standards, the unconstitutional demand for racial quotas, “Black Experience” requirement courses for all students, more MONEY, “safe spaces”, immediate tenure for black faculty, and even paid compensation for engaging in their racist, whiny protest!

      • Finally Watson, another tactic plucked from your grab-bag, you ignore the most egregious parts of the controversy–the demand for lower grading standards, the unconstitutional demand for racial quotas, “Black Experience” requirement courses for all students, more MONEY, “safe spaces”, immediate tenure for black faculty, and even paid compensation for engaging in their racist, whiny protest!

        Because. I. Don’t. Care. I’m not interested in reading every one of the demands of a small group of college students at a small college, enrollment less than 3,000. I’m sure the fellers at https://viewsfromtherightside.wordpress.com/ would happily agree with you and you all can verbally beat the shit out of these ill-informed, Western-hating black students. Better do it quick before Western civilization collapses on itself.

        News flash for you, Rusty: College students can be self-centered, self-possessed assholes.

        Good grief.

      • rustybrown2014 says:

        I’m not interested in reading every one of the demands of a small group of college students at a small college, enrollment less than 3,000.

        Then why comment at all? You’re right, you don’t seem interested in learning the facts of what we’re talking about. But you seem very interested in reflexively opining on the matter from a position of ignorance.

        You’re sticking with the “few bad apples” gambit even after it’s been pointed out to you that it’s in fact more than a few bad apples? And they’re successful at getting sincere lifelong academics ousted from their positions for no good reason? Fine. Don’t strain yourself. Wouldn’t want you to burn a calorie formulating an informed argument when you can just rely on your old bromides.

        No thanks to Neo’s website, I don’t associate with ignorant racists. In fact, you’re the only one siding with racists in this discussion. Your description of these students as “ill-informed and Western-hating” is apt, though I guess you wouldn’t know it because you haven’t read their ill-informed, Western-hating list of demands. In any event, your insinuation of racism on my part is noted and brings us full circle to proving my point so many paragraphs ago: bring up a topic that goes against pc dogma and be immediately branded a racist by the regressive left.

      • rustybrown2014 says:

        Btw, for clarity, nobody’s saying Western civilization is collapsing or that there aren’t plenty of college students who are self-centered, self-possessed assholes. But many of these protests are EXPLICITLY against Western civilization, which, in my view is more than worthy of protecting; and we shouldn’t be encouraging and defending self-centered, self-possessed assholes, we should be standing up to them and correcting them–that in large part is what college should be for. But that’s just me.

  12. Then why comment at all?

    Out of courtesy to you. I assumed you were expecting (hoping) for a response from me. My bad.

    • rustybrown2014 says:

      That’s cool man. It’s not like it’s the biggest crises facing our nation or anything. I’m just presenting it as a trending topic to gather some other opinions. I’ll admit to a a bit of trolling on my part because I can reliably predict your responses, although that really brings me no joy.

      I think this is all unfortunate, childish, racist bullshit and believe I’ve stated a case. You feel a need to defend it, excuse it and coddle it because, Black. I’m saddened by that view from a fellow lefty.

      • You feel a need to defend it, excuse it and coddle it because, Black.

        No. Because college students can be self-centered, self-possessed assholes. Even black ones.

        God, your overseas trip can’t get here soon enough. 🙂

      • rustybrown2014 says:

        Like I’ve already indicated, there would really be no issue if the self-centered, self-possessed assholes were told by the universities to go jump in a lake. But that’s not happening. The universities are often capitulating and good people have their jobs. Do you understand that distinction?

        So considering these clowns are being taken very seriously, does the racism on display here not bother you in the slightest? Would it bother you if we swapped the words “black” and “white” in the list of demands? I know your answer to that last one: yes it would. So why the intellectual inconsistency Watson? I know the answer to that one too: because, Black.

  13. rustybrown2014 says:

    That’s “good people have lost their jobs”

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